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Proven outcomes in higher education, from the people who achieved them.

Signals in Higher Ed, hosted by Darin Francis, is a podcast focused on practical outcomes in education, featuring practitioners and administrators who share what has actually worked in their institutions. The channel gives a platform to trusted voices in higher education to discuss policy, technology adoption, and student success strategies. It serves edtech buyers, institutional leaders, and faculty looking for vetted solutions to common challenges.

33 episodes
Channel Brief·signals in higher ed · 33 episodes
Updated Jun 1, 2026

Higher ed must embed work and real-world learning institution-wide.

Signals in Higher Ed argues that traditional college pathways are breaking down. The channel grounds this thesis in employer data, enrollment trends, and case studies of institutions redesigning curriculum around experiential learning, apprenticeships, and career outcomes.

The channel's core argument is that higher education's isolation from the workforce has become structurally untenable. Rather than debating whether experiential learning matters, Signals in Higher Ed treats it as proven and focuses on how to scale it institution-wide, equitably, and without sacrificing academic rigor. The proof pattern is direct: employer surveys showing skills gaps, retention data linking hands-on learning to persistence, and detailed accounts of institutions already redesigning their entire educational model around career readiness.

Drawn from Scaling Experiential Learning in the Curriculu… and 3 more

More than half of graduates are underemployed after finishing their degrees.

Episode 7: If Higher Ed Wants Experiential Learning at Scale

By the numbers

40-50%

Engineering program dropout rates in the U.S.

11%+

Annual growth rate of continuing education programs

4.7M

Projected new jobs between 2022 and 2032 per U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

59 in 100

Global workers needing reskilling by 2030 per World Economic Forum

What the channel argues

DataResearch from NACE shows work-based learning students receive significantly more job offers and higher starting salaries.
DataU.S. employment is projected to grow 4.7 million jobs between 2022 and 2032, creating workforce urgency.
DataContinuing education is expanding at more than 11% annually while undergraduate enrollment declines.
Data59 out of 100 workers globally will require reskilling or upskilling by 2030 per World Economic Forum.
InsightEmployer-sponsored apprenticeships offer earn-while-you-learn models that address ROI skepticism and skills gaps simultaneously.
InsightRegional universities scaling experiential learning see improved student persistence and timely graduation outcomes.

What you'll learn

Why the traditional college-to-career pipeline is broken and what specific structural mismatches employers and institutions are reporting.
How institutions like Iron Range Engineering, UVA, and Slippery Rock are redesigning curriculum to embed real-world projects and internships at scale, not as add-ons.
What role AI plays in reshaping entry-level work, early-career skill development, and the kinds of durable skills employers actually value.
How apprenticeships, continuing education, and competency-based credentials are emerging as viable alternatives to or complements of the four-year degree.
Why institution-wide employer alignment, not siloed career services, is becoming the differentiator for enrollment, retention, and graduate outcomes.

What to do about it

Audit your institution's employer partnerships to identify whether they are siloed in career services or integrated across curriculum, academic departments, and leadership strategy.
Design and pilot at least one scaled experiential learning model (embedded employer projects, apprenticeships, or competency-based work) that does not rely on students relocating or pausing studies.
Map your graduate career outcomes against employer-reported skills gaps and labor market projections for your region, then align curriculum and credential offerings accordingly.

Who and what shows up

Kristen Fox

CEO of Business-Higher Education Forum

Discusses institution-wide employer alignment as central to whether higher education prepares students for workforce realities and skills demands.

Dr. John Rindy

Slippery Rock University

Demonstrates how regional public universities are scaling experiential learning as core institutional strategy to address enrollment pressure and labor market demands.

Strada Education

Educational research and workforce platform

Research and programs highlight how structured career coaching and work-based learning close education-to-employment gaps, particularly for underserved students.

Skilltrade

Healthcare workforce platform

Demonstrates how experiential, competency-based learning bridges allied health worker shortages through employer-aligned short-cycle credentials.

Riipen

Work-based learning platform

Enables institutions to embed live employer projects directly into curriculum, scaling work-based learning across programs without relying on external internship placements.

Questions this channel answers

Q

Why is higher education losing public confidence?

Public confidence in the ROI of a traditional four-year degree has declined significantly. Employers report graduates lack job-ready durable skills, tuition costs are rising, and many graduates face underemployment or require significant on-the-job ramp-up before becoming productive.

The Degree That Pays You Back: How Employer-Sponsored Ap…
Q

What does the employer data actually show about graduate readiness?

Employers consistently report skills gaps among college graduates, particularly in durable skills like judgment, communication, and adaptability. Research from NACE shows students who complete internships or work-based learning receive significantly more job offers and higher starting salaries than those who do not.

Higher Ed Must Build a Talent Supply Chain to Fix Workfo…
Q

How can institutions scale experiential learning without excluding lower-income or geographically constrained students?

Institutions like UVA are integrating experiential learning into the core academic experience through embedded employer projects and simulations, rather than relying solely on external internship placements that require relocation or time flexibility many students lack.

Flood the Zone: University of Virginia’s New Strategy to…
Q

What role do apprenticeships and earn-while-you-learn models play in this shift?

Employer-sponsored apprenticeships are emerging as a model that addresses both the ROI skepticism and skills gap simultaneously, allowing students to earn while they learn and co-creating credentials with employers rather than requiring employers to recruit graduates.

Career-Connected Health Care: Why the Apprenticeship Deg…
Q

How is AI reshaping entry-level work and what does that mean for higher education?

AI is reducing routine task execution in entry-level roles, making durable skills like judgment, communication, and adaptability more important. Students are using AI to enhance applications while employers struggle to distinguish candidates, creating pressure on higher education to help students demonstrate real capabilities beyond AI-polished materials.

How Business Schools Can Scale Co-op Without Losing the …
Topics:Experiential and work-based learningApprenticeships and earn-while-you-learn modelsEmployer-university alignment and partnershipsCareer-connected credentials and skills-based hiringAI's impact on entry-level work and curriculum
Themes:Institution-wide employer alignment is no longer optionalExperiential learning must scale equitably, not remain available only to advantaged studentsWork-based learning, apprenticeships, and competency credentials are reshaping what a credential means

Industry context

Higher education institutions are undergoing fundamental recalibration of credential value and workforce alignment. Experiential and work-based learning approaches are increasingly central to how institutions prepare students for employment.