Skip to content
MarketScale
‹ Back to IndustriesHealthcare

Carnival CEO Comments on the Current State of the Cruise Industry

Carnival Corp. Chief Executive Officer Arnold Donald expressed optimism for recovery in the cruise industry, citing pent-up demand from regular cruisers. Donald spoke with Bloomberg’s Ed Hammond about these topics and more. Watch or read the transcript below. — Donald: We [Carnival] have a nice liquidity runway, we’re at the point where we still have…

This story was produced through MarketScale. See how Healthcare teams put it to work with Executive Thought Leadership.

Share
Carnival CEO Comments on the Current State of the Cruise Industry

Get featured

Want to get featured in MarketScale Healthcare?

Create a free MarketScale workspace and get your company's expertise featured across our Healthcare coverage. No credit card, no demo required.

Start free

Carnival Corp. Chief Executive Officer Arnold Donald expressed optimism for recovery in the cruise industry, citing pent-up demand from regular cruisers. Donald spoke with Bloomberg’s Ed Hammond about these topics and more. Watch or read the transcript below.

Donald: We [Carnival] have a nice liquidity runway, we’re at the point where we still have additional debt, we could secure if we needed it, and obviously, we will be opportunistic with regards to the balance sheet overall and in terms of equity. And so on. But at this point, we have the liquidity.

We need, you know, for to take us well into next year. And so with zero revenue. And obviously, we’re hoping to have some revenue this year and the beginning, it was a tough time.

You know, some of the debt we raise were at rates, you know, that we never would have even considered in the past. Then even more recent ones are at rates where we’re happy about them now. But, you know, two years ago, we wouldn’t have been happy with those rates.

So it is what it is. But, you know, we’ll adapt. And we have a great resilient business, a great resilient industry.

We will be able to generate lots of cash. And over time, we’ll get back to the solid credit rating that we had prior to the pandemic.

Host: I’m interested in that resilience that you mentioned on, because if I look at this industry, I mean, look, every industry has suffered through COVID. But I think when I think about the cruise industry, there have been some real and very visceral horror stories that have gone on over the last year. I understand you have a sticky customer base, but how do you pitch this as a model to new potential cruises?

Donald: As we look ahead, we have over eight million repeat cruises in our world. And of carnival and our nine world brands. And there’s pent up demand, a cruise on average once every two years.

And so there’s a whole year of repeat cruises basically that haven’t been able to cruise. And so we have plenty of pent up demand. Additionally, we reduced the size of the fleet because obviously, we had ships that were less efficient, and it didn’t make sense when they weren’t generating revenue to continue to invest in those ships.

That’s one way we got our burn rate down. And so we plan to exit 19 ships. So that takes our capacity down when we do come back.

Furthermore, it’s going to be a staggered return. All the destinations aren’t going to open up at once. Different destinations will open at different times.

And so there will be plenty of pent up demand, as is evidenced by the bookings already. As you look at late 2021 and first half, second half of 2022, where the bookings are stronger than they were even prior to COVID on the same basis.

Host: But also, if the cruise from what I understand, this is right, if the cruise of the near future is sort of more people, you know, on these boats in sort of isolation from one another and lose something of its essence, I mean, isn’t the whole allure of going on a cruise that you get these you know, you get to jostle and mingle with strangers, you have this sort of conviviality by the waves. If you don’t have that, then do people really want to go cruising?

Donald: Look, first of all, you’re absolutely right that travel and cruising in particular is about people connecting with other people. What people remember are other people on the cruise ships. The ships are fabulous. We have lots of features, but it’s all about the human spirit and human exchange. And people learn what they have in common. And then they learn to celebrate the differences rather than fear them. And that’s whether it’s through the guests to guests, or guests to the locals of the various destinations that they visit. So you’re absolutely right about that. Having said that, we are ready to resume cruising in Italy and with our Constitution and in Germany on a very limited basis. But our net promoter scores and basically our guest satisfaction scores went through the roof. People love the experience.

*Bloomberg contributed to this content

Follow us on social media for the latest updates in B2B!

Twitter – @MarketScale

Facebook – facebook.com/marketscale

LinkedIn – linkedin.com/company/marketscale

Your experts belong here

Every story in MarketScale Healthcare starts with a company putting its clinicians, service-line leaders, and field engineers on the record. Buyers are already reading this topic. The only question is whose experts they find.

Service-line buyers vet vendors quietly, and your clinicians become the proof they find while doing it.

Get your team featuredSee how it works15 minutes, straight to a calendar.

Follow Healthcare Insights

Get new expert content in your inbox.

Healthcare: are you visible to AI?

Before they reach out, Healthcare buyers ask AI engines which vendors to trust. Explore how your experts, customers, and partners can become useful content for buyers and AI search.

Free plan

You just read one Healthcare expert. Your company is full of them.

This article was produced through MarketScale. The same platform turns your clinicians, service-line leaders, and field engineers into the articles, video, and social content Healthcare buyers are searching for. Create a free workspace and see it with your own people. No credit card, no demo required.

NPS +73 · 1,000+ creators · 38+ countries

What you get, free

Your own MarketScale workspace, up to 10 people
One professional video edit a month for qualifying companies
Media requests to your crowd, remote recording, AI writing tools
$0, no credit card, nothing that expires

More Healthcare Insights

Health systems are partnering up without changing who owns the hospital

Health systems are partnering up without changing who owns the hospital

Health systems are choosing alliances over mergers, per a July McDermott Will & Schulte analysis and four July deals tracked by Becker's Hospital Review. St. Christopher's, Nemours, Jefferson and Temple signed a nonbinding alliance letter; Palomar UC San Diego Health launched July 1. Ownership stays put; governance, purchasing and outpatient investment absorb the change.

  • 01In an alliance, the contract does the integrating that an org chart does in a merger: McDermott Will & Schulte says governance design, exclusivity, antitrust review, community commitments and exit rights all have to be settled before signing.
  • 02Purchasing is now explicitly on the table in at least one no-ownership deal, the St. Peter's Health and Billings Clinic-Logan Health talks in Montana, which means shared supply contracts can arrive without a change of control.

Sep 19, 2026

Telemedicine in eye care stops at the retinal scan unless imaging moves home

Telemedicine in eye care stops at the retinal scan unless imaging moves home

An Ophthalmology Times commentary by T.Y. Alvin Liu, Ferdinand Hui and Phillip Phan sorts eye patients into three telemedicine tiers by clinical need. Patients needing regular OCT scans benefit less unless a home device can send the image. Video tools already sit inside Epic and Cerner; the deciding purchase for retina clinics is the imaging device in the patient's living room.

  • 01The dividing line for eye telemedicine is imaging, not video: patients who need regular OCT scans benefit less from remote visits unless a device at home can send the scan, so a video license alone shifts few of those encounters.
  • 02The provider-side requirement, a HIPAA-compliant secured video platform, was already built into Epic and Cerner by 2020; the patient-side requirements (1.5 MB up and down bandwidth, a quiet private room, comfort with the technology) sit outside the health system's control and are the ones worth screening for at scheduling.
  • 03Self-administered home color fundus photography for tracking non-proliferative diabetic retinopathy was named as the nearer route into retina telemedicine; home OCT for wet AMD is the harder gate and the device to watch.

Sep 19, 2026

Value-based care reaches a quarter of revenue at 30% of surveyed health organizations

Value-based care reaches a quarter of revenue at 30% of surveyed health organizations

Wolters Kluwer Health argues value-based care software is judged on whether customers hit incentive thresholds and avoid penalties. A Fierce Healthcare-reported survey it cites puts value-based care at a quarter or more of revenue for 30% of organizations. The analysis is a vendor publication that ends by pitching its own UpToDate Connect API.

  • 01The sharper question for any population health or care coordination platform is whether it changes what a clinician does at the moment of decision, or only reports afterward what happened. Wolters Kluwer's reading of the evidence is that many platforms still struggle with the first.
  • 02Vendors selling into value-based contracts now face a build-or-license decision on clinical content, because Wolters Kluwer names current, trusted content, consistent clinician adoption across sites, and a traceable link from guidance to quality metrics as the three hard problems.

Sep 18, 2026

Explore More Healthcare Insights

Read more expert perspectives from across Healthcare.

Browse Healthcare Hub

For B2B teams

Your experts could be publishing here

Stories like this one run on content MarketScale captures from real practitioners. See how your team's expertise becomes coverage in Healthcare and beyond.

Book a 15-minute demo

Or call us. No forms required. We pick up. 214-945-2512