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Michael Horn interviews the people redesigning how students learn

The Future of Education with Michael Horn features conversations with educators, entrepreneurs, and policy thinkers on how schools and learning institutions can better serve individual students. Horn, a co-founder of the Clayton Christensen Institute and author on disruptive education models, brings a research-backed lens to each interview. The channel is a resource for administrators, EdTech founders, and investors tracking structural change in education.

50 episodes
Channel Brief·The Future of Education with Michael Horn · 50 episodes
Updated May 28, 2025

Education is shifting from credentials to skills and choice

This channel argues that student outcomes, not seat time, should drive education. Evidence comes from state ESA adoption, AI's role in freeing teacher time, and employers rejecting degree requirements.

The Future of Education argues that American K-12 and higher education systems are being fundamentally reimagined around three forces: parent choice through education savings accounts, AI as a teacher support tool rather than replacement, and employer demand for skills over degrees. The channel demonstrates this through case studies of Stride Inc.'s evolution, Florida's ESA rollout serving 500,000+ students, and a national employer movement toward skills-first hiring.

Drawn from Stride at 25: Redefining the Digital Learning … and 2 more →

“Teachers typically spend 20 to 40 percent of their time on tasks that could be automated with today's technology, freeing up 13 hours each week.”

McKinsey research, cited in Episode 4

By the numbers

85%

American College of Education graduates exit debt-free

500,000+

Florida students receiving state scholarships

70-75%

parents favor school choice policies like ESAs and charter schools

376:1

national student-to-counselor ratio, far exceeding recommended 250:1

What the channel argues

DataFlorida deployed ESAs to 80,000+ families, shifting from school choice to assembled education.→
DataOnly 31% of U.S. fourth graders read proficiently as of 2024, worsened by COVID-19.→
DataUniversal ESA programs are 30% more politically viable than restricted ones.→
DataMiddle-skill jobs pay $53,000 early career and $80,000 at mid-career without four-year degrees.→
InsightAI systems lack theory of mind, limiting their effectiveness as personalized learning tools.→
Data54% of U.S. public school districts need upgrades to HVAC, roofing, and structural systems.→

What you'll learn

•How ESAs shift education from school selection to à la carte learning, enabled by Florida's 80,000+ early adopters and their custom education paths.
•Why AI tools will free 13 hours weekly for teachers if designed to support rather than replace them, and the risks of using AI to reinforce outdated systems.
•That middle-skill career paths paying $53k-$80k exist but require intentional career guidance, work-based learning, and employer partnerships starting in middle school.
•How alternative credentials like MTC's competency transcripts and ACE's debt-free model challenge traditional GPA and student loan structures with real adoption numbers.
•Why mentorship and high expectations from adults matter more than new technology in driving student motivation and engagement.

What to do about it

→Audit your education vendor or internal programs for whether they free teacher time or consume it; prioritize AI that handles administrative burden, not classroom instruction.
→If hiring or training workers, measure skills-based hiring pilots against degree-only cohorts to quantify ROI before scaling; survey your HR team on barriers to adoption.
→Map your local or institutional ESA, microschool, and career pathway options for your target student population; identify unmet demand for middle-skill credentials and work-based learning.

Who and what shows up

James Rhyu

CEO, Stride Inc.

Advocates treating students and families as customers to make K-12 systems more responsive to diverse needs, reflecting Stride's evolution from pioneer to ecosystem player.

Geordie Hyland

President and CEO, American College of Education

Built a university where 85% of students graduate debt-free by rejecting Title IV federal funding and operating on a pay-as-you-go model.

Cyndi Court

CEO, TGR Foundation

Scaled career-connected learning labs from tutoring to hands-on internships, serving 7,000 students annually in Anaheim with expansion to Philadelphia and Los Angeles.

Diane Tavenner

Education innovator and advocate

Contends that student-facing AI better prepares learners for the future and warns that teacher-first AI risks reinforcing outdated instructional models.

Michael Bennet

U.S. Senator (D-CO)

Co-authored the NEED Act with Senator John Cornyn proposing a DARPA-style National Center for Advanced Development in Education to fund high-risk education R&D.

Questions this channel answers

Q

How do you turn education savings account laws into real family benefit?

Implementation requires rule design, vendor procurement, financial oversight, family support systems, and integration into long-term school improvement strategies. Passing legislation is only the first step.

Educational Choice Isn’t Enough—Implementation Will Make… →
Q

Should AI in classrooms serve teachers first or students first?

Most tools are teacher-facing due to safety and market dynamics, but student-facing AI better prepares learners for the future and risks reinforcing outdated instructional models if placed only with teachers.

Classroom AI: Who Should It Serve First—Teachers or Stud… →
Q

Why do so many young adults stay out of school and work?

Traditional college-for-all pathways fail students lacking clear purpose or direction, and rising tuition and dropout rates signal the need for earlier career education and employer partnerships.

Preparing Students for the Real World: Why Career Educat… →
Q

How can tutoring actually close the reading gap?

High-dosage 1:1 virtual tutoring rooted in the Science of Reading, focusing on decoding as the foundation for fluency and comprehension, has shown measurable success with completion and job placement rates exceeding 70%.

Educators Must Combine 1:1 Tutoring with the Science of … →
Q

What stops employers from hiring based on skills instead of degrees?

Three barriers persist: ROI uncertainty, lack of credential trust, and organizational risk aversion. Harvard Business School research shows degrees reduce talent pools without evidence of better job performance.

Helping Employers Move Beyond Degrees in Favour of Skill… →
Topics:Education savings accounts and school choiceGenerative AI in classrooms and teacher supportSkills-based hiring and career-connected learningAlternative credentials and microschoolsLiteracy intervention and personalized tutoring
Themes:Systems change through implementation, not legislation aloneHuman relationships drive outcomes more than technologyCompetencies and earning potential matter more than credentials

Industry context

U.S. states are implementing education savings accounts (ESAs) that allocate per-student funding directly to families, enabling choice among private schools, tutoring, and alternative models. This policy shift is reshaping market dynamics as parent satisfaction with public schools continues to decline.

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